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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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his critics, and slur the nra. >> our special guest, susan o z eisenhower taking on the web ad about the obama daughters. >>> and surprise, even bo obama gets into the act as the first family greets unsuspecting tourists at the white house. with, in fact, a fist bump from the commander in chief. >>> and good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. a busy day here, secretary clinton final facing tough questions from senate republicans about benghazi. >> i'm glad that you're accepting responsibility. i think that ultimately with your leaving you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and i really mean that. had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you from your post. >> well, joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, and david sanger. welcome, all. chris, we've seen these kinds of dramas before. this one was pretty tough. of course, the house side yet to come.
his critics, and slur the nra. >> our special guest, susan o z eisenhower taking on the web ad about the obama daughters. >>> and surprise, even bo obama gets into the act as the first family greets unsuspecting tourists at the white house. with, in fact, a fist bump from the commander in chief. >>> and good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. a busy day here, secretary clinton final facing tough questions from senate republicans about benghazi. >> i'm...
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. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying things like it is nonsense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america
. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying things like it is nonsense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america
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the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-oldh adia pendleton of chicago who was fate ideally shot in what may have been a gang turf war. after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival, it all happened since then, we learned in 20
the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs...
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this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get with law enforcement. if you were for common sense gun regulations you were for getting tough on crime. if you were against them, you were weak on crime. that got a number of votes from the republican party. the president clearly occupying the political center with law enforcement, parents, teachers, community leaders. the nra and some elements of the republican party associating themselves with people that would desecrate the memory of the victims in newtown, people that would then try to, as "the new york times" exposed yesterday, ma
this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of...
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the nra says it's confident congress will not pass this particular bill. senate majority leader democrat harry reid, a long-time gun rights advocate, has been under pressure to act. he is hinting he may allow a measure to go to a vote, but only with a very liberal amendment process which could strip out the most controversial parts of the measure. >> shepard: shannon bream in washington. we're gotting our first look at rare photos that show the private life of the kennedy family. they've been locked up at the home of the late long-time kennedy aide. this picture said to be from 1954 shows the future president, john f. kennedy, and his wife, jackie, and his sister, ethel. you can see jackie with the camera taking it there. this is a birthday card that jfk, junior gave his father in 1963. the year an assassin's bullet would kill the president. relatives of the aide say they found them as they discovered to sell his home. >>> the cost of snail mail goes up on sunday. the price of a stamp going up a penny to 46 cents, sending a letter internationally jumping t
the nra says it's confident congress will not pass this particular bill. senate majority leader democrat harry reid, a long-time gun rights advocate, has been under pressure to act. he is hinting he may allow a measure to go to a vote, but only with a very liberal amendment process which could strip out the most controversial parts of the measure. >> shepard: shannon bream in washington. we're gotting our first look at rare photos that show the private life of the kennedy family. they've...
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there are a lot of people in the nra, but 90% of the country is not in the nra. so where is the disconnect here, is it just because the nra has more money or is better organized? i do think there's been an infliction point since newtown, sam. >> part of what the nra has been very effective at is creating a boogey man obama, this is what he's going to do. what wayne lapierre was talking about there, the federal database, i'm pretty sure that's not in the president's proposal to have a federal database of every gun that's owned. he does want to do background checks, but there's things obama could have done that he didn't, such as constricting the sales of guns one to a week. if we're talking about absolutisms, we have to ask, does wayne lapierre support no background checks, is he comfortable with mentally insane people buying grenade launchers? i don't think anyone, including virtually all of the nra membership, is comfortable with no regulations whatsoever, but that's what wayne lapierre, i thought, was saying last night. >> what is strange to me and somewhat dis
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there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has a long and proud history of doing exactly that. our child safety program has taught 25 million young children that if they see a gun, they should do four things. stop, don't touch, the area, call an adult. as a result of this and other private-sector programs, fatal firearms accidents are at the lowest level in 100 years. the nra has over 80,000 certified instructors to teach our military personnel, law enforcement officers, and hundreds of thousands of other american men and women how to safely use firearms. we do more and spend more than anyone else
there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has...
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the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've learned since the newtown tragedy that wayne lapierre represents the interests of gun manufacturers, not of gun owners. i think it's clear there's a lot of daylight between the two. one of the things that became clear today in the hearing, i think, was that lapierre's credibility is quickly evapor e evaporating. even amongst republicans who are squeamish about the lunatic things this guy has said from time to time. not just going after the president's children. not just the idea we ought to be marketing assaults to 10-year-old kids. when chairman leahy today exposed the fact lap
the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've...
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you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president met with ducks unlimited and some other sort of water fowl outdoor sports groups, and later today the attorney general is meeting with retailers, including cabella's, wal-mart, and some others. they're all trying to get their ideas. we're told that in this most sensitive meeting, this one at 1:45 that includes the national rifle association, vice president biden is really going to push them to participate to say we need to try and find some area for common ground, for compromise. we're not going to et let you just come in here and give us your
you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president...
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the nra lobby and nra officials are out of step with the members. support for universal background checks is something that and remembers support. host: back to the process on capitol hill. "the washington post" talks about the process. host: any thoughts? guest: there are different components and part of it comprehensive approach to reduce gun violence. i would add to gun trafficking which is a bill joined by senator schumer. gun trafficking -- so many guns in one state have come from another state. we need to strengthen those laws, but they are handguns or rifles and assault weapons. no one knows which bill will go first. the first piece is hearings on the subject. universal background check and trafficking -- i think "the washington post" notes the assault weapons ban is the most challenging. high-capacity magazines -- there was a steady to reduce gun violence. the effort to reduce gun violence. universal background checks are essential. callers have all noted getting guns out of the hands of criminals is the number-one priority. host: bill clint
the nra lobby and nra officials are out of step with the members. support for universal background checks is something that and remembers support. host: back to the process on capitol hill. "the washington post" talks about the process. host: any thoughts? guest: there are different components and part of it comprehensive approach to reduce gun violence. i would add to gun trafficking which is a bill joined by senator schumer. gun trafficking -- so many guns in one state have come...
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they like the nra and the nra likes to sell guns and they like to sell high capacity magazines. i'm not against the nra per se. i'm not against the second amendment. but i am against the high capacity magazines and the assault rifles, and i think the reasonable restrictions we can have in this country to protect the public and background checks loopholes at gun shows needs to be stopped but i don't think the government will let it happen. >> michael: it's december pressing when you see the news, all this gunfire and the republicans will not move because they're in the hands of the nra. it's really pathetic. they are a bunch of clowns sometimes. we are a better country because of people like you. thank you. >> thank you. >> reporter: it's been 39 days since the tragedy at sandy hook. at least 1131 has died from gun violence. that's about 43 towns like newtowns. lydia was shot and her mother were shot while they were preparing for a birthday party for lydia's little brother. sheher mother survived but she didn't. she leaves behind three children. another senseless life taken away
they like the nra and the nra likes to sell guns and they like to sell high capacity magazines. i'm not against the nra per se. i'm not against the second amendment. but i am against the high capacity magazines and the assault rifles, and i think the reasonable restrictions we can have in this country to protect the public and background checks loopholes at gun shows needs to be stopped but i don't think the government will let it happen. >> michael: it's december pressing when you see...
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i think the nra is still a very powerful force. and we need to work with them to find a way to get to yes. and that's really our challenge. i totally support the assault weapon ban. i think the most critical thing we can do, however, is to make sure that we have a universal background check, and that we ban these high-capacity magazines. >> congresswoman, explain why this is so personal to you and now in your professional capacity to see something done. >> it's personal to me on two levels. one, i carry the assault weapon ban in california many years ago, back in 1989, and feel very strongly about it. and before that, i was shot in jonestown, gianna, five times, left for dead on an air strip for 22 hours, so i know the kind of brutality that assault weapons can do to human beings. and we just don't need the slaughter of people in this country because of a right to own firearms, which there is clearly a right to own firearms, but not a right necessarily to own assault weapons. >> congresswoman, we also brought you onboard today so w
i think the nra is still a very powerful force. and we need to work with them to find a way to get to yes. and that's really our challenge. i totally support the assault weapon ban. i think the most critical thing we can do, however, is to make sure that we have a universal background check, and that we ban these high-capacity magazines. >> congresswoman, explain why this is so personal to you and now in your professional capacity to see something done. >> it's personal to me on two...
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you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they propose happen to increase gun sales. all of their solutions are about finding ways to get more guns into the hands of-mile-an-hour people and this new little industry that's popping up which is training people to be a first responder in the classroom or a nurse first responder. all of that is an industry and the nra benefits. >> if you're a nurse, you can shoot and then you can treat. >> indeed. you have two hands. >> of course. david corn, joy r50ed, thank you both so much. >>> coming up, will the man with the illegible signature get tough on wall street? stay with us. >> jack assures me he is going to
you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they...
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how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every constitutional amendment, and there are legitimate restrictions and modifications. the best example i can give everybody is freedom of speech. absolutely, but it's not universal. you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. the right to bare arms under the second amendment allows us to -- is a constitutionally protected right, but, i mean, how far do you go? i think as a veteran and i dare say if you ask any veteran who has used an assault weapon in combat or trained with it, whether or not they think their next door neighbor as well-intentioned as they are needs to be able t
how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every...
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the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think there's two points there. again, there is enormous public support for these measures. the question is whether these populous and progressive organizations and the infrastructure that they have at their disposals can begin to get the legislatures to follow up on public will here. secondly, the nra argument as stephen and michael were eluding to, there have been dozens perhaps hundreds of challenges to gun laws that are on the books across the country. and nearly every single one of them have failed. there is virtually no case law on the federal books
the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think...
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. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying li ining things is chon sense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america will fill in the marketplace and not the nra. >> joy evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. now is the time for america to get laser focused on how the republicans are trying to steal the next election. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, especially in urban areas. >> forget policy. if you can't win it, just go ahead and rig it. the gop moves to steal elections. first stop? virginia. david corn and charnelle herring tell us if the dirty move could work. the right still can't handle hillary. >> she obviously has an enduring media. >> so the
. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying li ining things is chon sense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america will fill in the marketplace and not the nra....
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the nra is actually in a very weak position here. because if you just inform people about how weak the gun laws are, they go that is not my position. i thought it was already in place. >> richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >> you bet. >>> coming up, scott brown's political future. will he be smart enough to avoid losing the race in massachusetts by not running for the race again, that is in the re-write. >>> and later, cory booker will be here to talk about his intention to run for senate in new jersey. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. nothing.
the nra is actually in a very weak position here. because if you just inform people about how weak the gun laws are, they go that is not my position. i thought it was already in place. >> richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >> you bet. >>> coming up, scott brown's political future. will he be smart enough to avoid losing the race in massachusetts by not running for the race again, that is in the re-write. >>> and later, cory booker will be here to talk...
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the head of the nra came out afterwards and said we can check off the box met with the nra and then go do whatever they planned to do in the first place. that's what we wanted to happen because the power the unlimited power, the days of the unlimited power of the nra are now clearly over. and it is about time. it's not because the american people have changed. it is because the nra has changed from an organization that once represented responsible gun owners to an organization today that is nothing but the lobby for irresponsible gun manufacturers. vice president joe biden says he will now have his recommendations to president obama on gun violence, how to deal with it, by next tuesday. good for joe biden. has to be the fastest job on a task force in history. have a great weekend everybody! thanks for being with us this week. we'll see you again here on monday.
the head of the nra came out afterwards and said we can check off the box met with the nra and then go do whatever they planned to do in the first place. that's what we wanted to happen because the power the unlimited power, the days of the unlimited power of the nra are now clearly over. and it is about time. it's not because the american people have changed. it is because the nra has changed from an organization that once represented responsible gun owners to an organization today that is...
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and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with the strategy that the nra has where they're not talking to the broad majority of people and not talking to people who are in the middle on this issue but only a narrow angry base and the more they do that, the more they risk marginalizing themselves in this discussion. >> you say it shouldn't be a surprise that the nra not support an assault weapons ban and what was seen as the least controversial aspect of this debate has been a universal background check looking at the polling even folk who is are members of the nra and who republicans seem to support that idea. wayne lapierre
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>> jennifer: the rhetoric is so hot that it would be fair to wonder if the nra leadership and the anti-gun safety crowd live on the same planet as the pro gun safety crowd. listen to senator lindsey graham as he explains why ordinary citizenses should be allowed to have ar-15 assault rifles. >> what if there is an earthquake situation and you need your ar-15. what about the riots. >> jennifer: earthquakes riots of course you need an assault rifle for those things. and many in washington share show views. maybe if they met with community leaders on the front line of every day gun violence like nancy pelosi did yesterday maybe they would realize that ordinary citizens armed with assault weapons really isn't the answer. joe marshall, the director of mega boy's club and part of vice president biden's task force. he's joining us. welcome inside "the war room"." >> thank you, glad to be here. >> jennifer: floodglad to have you here. you just heard the sound bite from senator graham. what do you say to that? >> if martians come down and debate. when i wish he would come talk to my young people an
>> jennifer: the rhetoric is so hot that it would be fair to wonder if the nra leadership and the anti-gun safety crowd live on the same planet as the pro gun safety crowd. listen to senator lindsey graham as he explains why ordinary citizenses should be allowed to have ar-15 assault rifles. >> what if there is an earthquake situation and you need your ar-15. what about the riots. >> jennifer: earthquakes riots of course you need an assault rifle for those things. and many in...
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and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in texas. >> jennifer: wow. sounds like a jam-packed night. all right. we'll be watching at the top of the hour. thanks, cenk. >> thank you. >> jennifer: chuck hagel will face some tough questions tomorrow. he has been nominated for secretary of defense and the neo-cons are not thrilled about the prospect of hagel heading up the military because they are concerned that he won't protect the defense budget from the sharp spending cuts that are expected with the ending of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and the looming threat of the sequester, those cuts could slash the pentagon's budget -- here is what
and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in...
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where the nra is based. she's coming from richmond virginia, welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. virginia is now considering a measure to arm teachers. do you think that will prevent school violence? >> no, i do not. what will prevent school violence is a measured, practical, and realistic approach. arming teachers is a concept that is rejected by most virginians, and i'll tell you why. teachers are trained to teach. police officers are trained to protect the community. it takes time and experience to develop the adjustment in a crisis situation. police officers have that training. teachers don't. you know, a couple of hours of training for a teacher to carry a firearm is one thing. a crisis situation is something else. >> jennifer: so i'm interested in this. your colleague or your a colleague in the legislation bob marshall proposed that very measure. he was in "the war room" this week and i would love for you to take a listen to what he had to say. >> if a perso
where the nra is based. she's coming from richmond virginia, welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. virginia is now considering a measure to arm teachers. do you think that will prevent school violence? >> no, i do not. what will prevent school violence is a measured, practical, and realistic approach. arming teachers is a concept that is rejected by most virginians, and i'll tell you why. teachers are trained to teach....
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jumping. this i
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican senators like mark kirk in illinois who have been open in the past on issues like assault weapons bans, and you'll have democrats in the west, the mountain west and the rural south that will be absolutely opposed to it. and as you said earlier, though it is nonsense, and i'm certainly a person who believes that you can be a second amendment supporter, and also have sensible regulations on guns, but this issue plays out on the extremes, on the absurd binary choice that has defined the issue for so long. >> and that analysis, what you said ther
but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican...
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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's conference is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. eastern, about two hours from now. >>> the military is making a major change, for the first time in history women will be allowed to serve on the front lines but don't expect to see changes right away. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence tells us why. >> reporter: army infantry, marine recon, even special ops, on thursday, they all opened to women for the first time. the pentagon is eliminating its ban on women in combat, but there's a catch. did you know today's army would be so different than the one you joined? >>
the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's...
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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i mean, the scary scenario that she let out, maybe the nra is right, maybe the movies are the problem. she didn't cite a single case that actually was like that. all of these armed intruders coming in so you need a 30-clib magazine to defend yourself. she didn't talk about a case like that. the real violence against women is usually one-on-one violence in which a woman is more likely to be killed by a gun even if it's hers than to use it to defend herself. >> the thing that struck me about the argument she was trying to make, nobody is saying that if you're a woman and you want to have a gun and go through legal procedures you can't have a gun. that's not -- she was trying to make an argument, sort of a fake argument. doesn't really exist. i guess she's suggesting thea r-15 is one that women specifically need because ths big around scary. >> nobody is talking about taking away, confiscating, or banning handguns. >> or saying you can't get a gun legally. >> what people are saying is does that woman in the scenario she's describing need to be able to empty 100-round clip into this suppo
i mean, the scary scenario that she let out, maybe the nra is right, maybe the movies are the problem. she didn't cite a single case that actually was like that. all of these armed intruders coming in so you need a 30-clib magazine to defend yourself. she didn't talk about a case like that. the real violence against women is usually one-on-one violence in which a woman is more likely to be killed by a gun even if it's hers than to use it to defend herself. >> the thing that struck me...
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this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of what that executive direction might look like. vice president biden talking about some of the ideas that have been bantied back and forth in these meetings. here's what he had to say today. take a listen. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we have met with. and i'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons can be owned. and one is there is a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal backgr
this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of...